2002... or... a bit later. My first real job.
And pretty quickly I´d had it and went to my boss.
Well, my customer-boss, mM.
"How about this: We have one piece of a statement, centered, in our portal, saying we speak to both, men and women but use the male format cause it´s easier to read?
No "Kolleginnen und Kollegen", no "Mitarbeiterinnen und Mitarbeiter" (and why ever have women to be first despite they claim they want to be treated equal????)"
He looked at me. Said not a word. Meep?
I´d earned the causal "du", btw. Like in French, "tu", etc - English is just so wonderfully easy with this! You are... well... "equal"!
Then, Ingo, remember him? MM looked very firm at me and said...
"Yes! Go ahead, do that! I am sick of this, also!!!!"
2025. Today, it´s in the "news" (and not really done).
Meanwhile "they" came up with ...
Kolleg*innen, Kolleg-/innen, Mitarbeiter*innen, Mitarbeitenden, you name it.
What about "divers"???? Do you forget about them?
Oh, which loo to take???
I mean.. Germany. Try to find a public toilet anyways!
And for free... nooo.
Same sex, nooo....
Top it: Mirrors in the female section that high I see my top-hair.
Tippe-ti-top, I complained (yes, Ingo, it was at Jürgens and the boys put it it lower - we should go again for a beer?).
Interview in this news: What do you think?
Jeder (male) sollte wählen, was er (male) will.
YES!!!
I am a woman and very thankful I am!!!
I get flowers.
Ingo opens the door- and I have to go first! Pop up danger I take a big step back and land... on Ingo´s foot. Ever re-think that concept???
Physics... mass + speed = outch. I remember the firefighter in Perth who laughed...
'Nough of that... for Monday Murals just scroll down. This had to get out, GUYS! PEEPS. US!
My best friend so disagrees btw. But... I can take that! It´s her opinion, I have mine.
We discussed, we disagree (still do), we accept.
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I am so tired I can barely hold my eyes open. There is NO "T" in ouch.
LOL, in German there is a "T", is it?... fitting to this post and I cannot install the program they require at the study-company.... Monday....
Liebe Iris,
ich verstehe dich gut - ich habe im öffentlichen Dienst gearbeitet. Erst hieß es „Binnen-I verwenden“, dann wieder „Sternchen ist korrekt“, oder war’s umgekehrt? 🤷♀️ Und wenn man ganz auf Nummer sicher gehen wollte, musste man gleich die ganze Wurscht schreiben – also z. B. „Mitarbeiterinnen und Mitarbeiter“ oder noch inklusiver. 😄
Damals hab ich schon gesagt: Dieses ewige „-Innen“ bringt keiner Frau was, solange sie nicht gleichen Lohn für gleiche Leistung oder die gleichen Chancen bei Bewerbungen bekommt. (Und das sehe ich heute noch genauso!) 💼⚖️
Das Binnen-I wird oft nur dafür verwendet, um jenen was zum Aufregen zu geben, die sich schon über das bloße Vorhandensein von Frauen im Berufsleben nerven.
Mittlerweile bin ich da entspannter – mal ein Sternchen, mal ein I, je nach Tagesform. Eine Zeitlang dachte ich sogar: Vielleicht bringt’s ja doch was! Denn zumindest gefühlt gab’s eine Phase, in der mehr Offenheit für alle Geschlechter entstand – auch für jene, die sich durch Manderl oder Weiberl nicht angesprochen fühlen. 🌈
Leider scheint sich der Wind gerade wieder zu drehen… Vieles wirkt wie ein Rückschritt – die alten „Frauen an den Herd“-Töne sind plötzlich wieder salonfähig, und die lautesten Rufe gegen das Gendern kommen erschreckend oft von ganz rechts außen. 🚨
Und weißt du was, jetzt bin ich FÜR das Binnen-I. Oder fürs Sternderl. Oder was auch immer den Menschen hilft, sich gesehen und gemeint zu fühlen. Jawoll! ✊
Alles Liebe von deiner Traude 🌿
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Dear friend Iris, a new shopping mall opened here in Montreal a year ago and there are unisex washrooms. This is new here, as there have always been ladies 🚺 and men separately.
...somethings that were quite simple in the past have become complex now.
I think German is easier than French to master. But as you say, English is much easier than French and German.
I remember at the Cliff of Moher there were unisex bathrooms. Everyone went in the same one. It was odd, but okay. At least there was no line for the ladies room, as is usual in crowded places.
Yes you can tell when a tall man installs a mirror! Same thing happens here.
German would be so much easier to learn without the gender of nouns and articles. Der, die, das and don't get me started on the dative case. Though I do know the prepositions that take the dative as I had to memorize them and today just learned there's a song! Enjoy your day!
Ach, liebe Traude, können wir nicht einfach nur "sein"? Das ist mir so "gleich" wer was wie.
Lass uns doch einfach lieb sein!
Vielleicht bin ich zu alt... zu einfach?
Meine Freundin hat zwei Kinder. Ihre Freundin ist die leibliche Mutter, Vater von allen gewollt unbekannt. Die beiden sind nicht verheiratet, denn sie hätte nicht die Rechte, die sie als "Mann" hätte.
Ist doch bekloppt...
In Perth, dear Linda, I saw, I used unisex toilets. I also used men´s ones when the women´s was broken. Drama that was. Oh, boy, we are people... (or, "oh girl"...)
For some, Tom, for some who have nothing else to do. My two cents... Can you do this in English anyways? What is female for "worker"?
I (certainly) so agree! But I grew up German. Arabic etc when I fail to read already... huh... do I feel dumb! But I have sweet memories of helpful people!!!
Refreshing! As in you made me laugh!!! With all.
Can you teach me? I really need to learn the Latin names for this German stuff and I am not kidding....
I've been in many places with unisex toilets. I've never felt uncomfortable using them,, except maybe the first time. I think it's the way of the future. Or maybe not, the way things in the US are now.
I think German is easier than English. LOL I have never seen a unisex bathroom here where I live or surrounding towns. Although, I'm sure in the big city there are.
I so agree. I mean.. I´ve been in men´s toilets and was that some drama. I never "looked" anything away!!! And it always was the men who thought they were in the "wrong" toilet, which is funny as I could never use a pissoir (or whatever you call that).
We are PEOPLE.
For sure I can say French is more difficult. I once had something "important" to ask. I was 14. I was told (in French)... "You speak like that in court, you can talk normal in this house...."
I happily forgot about how to talk like that - what do they teach you in school?!
We have some unisex toilets. I am not a fan! Guys are slobs!
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